MSMP 59: Harry Morton on Hiring Creatives
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What Does MSMP 59: Harry Morton on Hiring Creatives Talk About?
In this episode of Mads Singers Management Podcast, host Mads speaks with Harry Morton, founder of Lower Street, a podcast production agency. They discuss the unique challenges and rewards of managing creative teams, particularly in the podcasting industry. Harry shares his journey of building a small, focused team and the lessons he learned about hiring for creativity over industry experience. The conversation also covers communication styles of different team members, like developers who prefer written communication, and how to motivate creatives beyond monetary incentives. The episode explores the 'problem' of having too many applicants and the appeal of a small team culture.
A creative can always learn the industry, but you can't take someone with industry experience and make him/her creative and flexible.Harry Morton
Who Is Featured on MSMP 59: Harry Morton on Hiring Creatives?
Harry Morton is the founder of Lower Street, a podcast production agency that helps brands and organizations create impactful podcasts. He has firsthand experience in building a creative team and navigating the podcasting boom. His insights on hiring, managing creatives, and fostering a small-team culture are central to this episode.
What Are the Key Takeaways From MSMP 59: Harry Morton on Hiring Creatives?
- Hire for creativity and flexibility rather than just industry experience, as creative people can learn the industry but the reverse is not true.
- Creatives often respond better to non-monetary incentives like better tools or a comfortable work environment rather than just money.
- Developers tend to communicate in written form with great detail, so managers should adapt their communication style to match.
- A small team can be a strength when hiring, as it attracts people who are technically competent, caring, and fully committed to the company culture.
- Having too many applicants can be a problem if you don't have a clear hiring strategy focused on the right attributes like creativity and cultural fit.
If you give them a bigger screen or a more comfortable chair, things that make them more effective, you will see the appreciation and even better performance from them.Mads
Is MSMP 59: Harry Morton on Hiring Creatives Worth Listening To?
This episode is highly recommended for managers and business owners who work with creative teams, especially in the podcasting or media industry. Harry Morton provides practical advice on hiring, communication, and motivation that can be applied to any creative field. The discussion on adapting management styles to different personality types is particularly valuable.
Who Should Listen to MSMP 59: Harry Morton on Hiring Creatives?
- Managers of creative teams
- Podcast producers and agency owners
- Entrepreneurs building small teams
- HR professionals in media industries
What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?
Finally, a podcast that gets the nuances of managing creatives! Harry's insights on hiring for creativity over experience were spot on. I've already changed my hiring process because of this episode.
CreativeLeader23As a podcast producer, I found the discussion on communication styles incredibly useful. Mads and Harry break down why developers think differently and how to work with them effectively. Five stars!
PodcastProThe part about small team culture resonated with me. Harry's approach to building a team that is all in on the mission is exactly what I needed to hear. Great episode!
SmallBizOwner
It’s a golden age for podcasts. They deliver news, drive lead generation and marketing, and feature long-form conversations on every subject under the sun.
Our guest for this episode of Mads Singers Management Podcast is someone who lives and breathes in that podcast world, Harry Morton. Harry is the founder of Lower Street, a podcast production agency that helps people grow their brands and create great podcasts. They also help create internal podcasts for large organizations to share policies, information, and culture.
Podcasting is trendy right now and that means people are flocking to work in the industry. That can lead to “too many applicants,” which is a problem some business owners would like to have, but which was also a great lesson to Harry early on. He thought that experience in the industry was going to be the key piece of the puzzle for each applicant, but what he found (and what made sense in Lower Street company culture) was that creativity was the secret sauce. Harry noted that a creative can always learn the industry, but you can’t take someone with industry experience and make him/her creative and flexible.
That’s another part of the culture he’s created with his team at Lower Street: a small team. A small team working with a particular number of clients, as opposed to an enormous agency working with innumerable clients, has an appeal to just the sort of people that have thrived with him. These employees tend to be:
- Technically competent
- Caring
- All in on the culture and work ethic of the company
Small has been a strength for him when hiring.
One of the paths of discussion we took when Harry discussed managing creatives (and a topic that often comes up with my management coaching clients) was communication and motivation with members of your team depending on how they think. Developers, for example, tend to communicate in written form, at length, in great detail. That means that not only do you have to adapt to getting communication like that from them, you should also mirror that communication back (instead of your preferred method, which may be spoken instead of written). Developers may also be less money-motivated, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be motivated by things. If you give them a bigger screen or a more comfortable chair, things that make them more effective, you will see the appreciation and even better performance from them.
I enjoyed learning about how Harry runs his company and I think you will too!
Key Learning Points:
1. Harry discusses the pros and cons of managing creatives - 2:30
2. Mads notes how developers tend to communicate - 3:57
3. Harry talks about the relationship creatives have with deadlines - 7:40
4. Harry shares what he’s discovered about hiring - 9:10
5. Mads compares attitude and mentality to skill set when hiring - 10:35
6. Mads explores the myth of “money motivation” - 12:02
7. Harry explains the “problem” of “too many applicants” - 18:15
8. Harry shares the appeal of a small team to certain applicants - 24:40
Resources Mentioned:
Connect with Harry Morton:
1. Twitter